Time-out Posting to PHP Internals List

> On Fri, Aug 16, 2024, at 22:16, Kris Craig wrote: > >> On Fri, Aug 16, 2024 at 8:11 AM Derick Rethans <derick@php.net> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> In the last months, you have had numerous suggestions to keep it civil >>> on the mailing list, in the "C++ Enhancements" thread [1,2,3,4,5,6], and >>> multiple other threads [7,8,9], and by many individuals. Despite that, >>> you did continue with ad hominems and related belligerent language, >>> bordering on trolling. >>> >>> You have therefore been given a 3-month timeout, which will be enforced >>> by blocking you from sending email to the php.net domain, including >>> subdomains. >>> >>> Evading, or attempts to evade, this restriction will result in longer >>> expulsions. >>> >>> with kind regards, >>> Derick Rethans >>> >>> [1] https://externals.io/message/124879#124905 >>> [2] https://externals.io/message/124879#124931 >>> [3] https://externals.io/message/124879#124936 >>> [4] https://externals.io/message/124879#124948 >>> [5] https://externals.io/message/124879#124950 >>> [6] https://externals.io/message/124879#124951 >>> [7] https://externals.io/message/123573#123605 >>> [8] https://externals.io/message/124139#124168 >>> [9] https://externals.io/message/123769#123888 >> >> This message kinda freaked me out until I realized it wasn't directed at me lol. Couldn't this have just been sent to the individual privately instead? I really don't need to see a notification whenever somebody gets themselves temp-banned from the list, just saying. > > I saw the first few lines on my phone and had a similar wtaf reaction. Adding the person’s name in the salutation would help instead of a general “hello”. But otherwise, I think it is healthy for it to be public. Voices silently silenced, even for a good reason, are never a good thing. Also, it gives people a chance to advocate for the banned or object to the banning, if they so choose.

> > > On Fri, Aug 16, 2024, at 22:16, Kris Craig wrote: > > > > On Fri, Aug 16, 2024 at 8:11 AM Derick Rethans <derick@php.net> wrote: > > Hi, > > In the last months, you have had numerous suggestions to keep it civil > on the mailing list, in the "C++ Enhancements" thread [1,2,3,4,5,6], and > multiple other threads [7,8,9], and by many individuals. Despite that, > you did continue with ad hominems and related belligerent language, > bordering on trolling. > > You have therefore been given a 3-month timeout, which will be enforced > by blocking you from sending email to the php.net domain, including > subdomains. > > Evading, or attempts to evade, this restriction will result in longer > expulsions. > > with kind regards, > Derick Rethans > > [1] https://externals.io/message/124879#124905 > [2] https://externals.io/message/124879#124931 > [3] https://externals.io/message/124879#124936 > [4] https://externals.io/message/124879#124948 > [5] https://externals.io/message/124879#124950 > [6] https://externals.io/message/124879#124951 > [7] https://externals.io/message/123573#123605 > [8] https://externals.io/message/124139#124168 > [9] https://externals.io/message/123769#123888 > > > This message kinda freaked me out until I realized it wasn't directed at > me lol. Couldn't this have just been sent to the individual privately > instead? I really don't need to see a notification whenever somebody gets > themselves temp-banned from the list, just saying. > > --Kris > > > > I saw the first few lines on my phone and had a similar wtaf reaction. > Adding the person’s name in the salutation would help instead of a general > “hello”. But otherwise, I think it is healthy for it to be public. Voices > silently silenced, even for a good reason, are never a good thing. Also, it > gives people a chance to advocate for the banned or object to the banning, > if they so choose. > > — Rob >