Larry, thanks the feedback, made changes based on all of it. Updated
PR: https://github.com/php/policies/pull/32
On Mon, May 18, 2026 at 6:37 PM Larry Garfield <larry@garfieldtech.com> wrote:
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> As I noted in a comment (before realizing I should likely post here instead): Saying "not political" is a trap. In the current environment, not being political is simply not an option, because so many things have become politicized. Simply whose name we mention can be political, for reasons noted in the comment there.
The neutrality wording now only applies to content and the policy
explicitly says applying those rules is up to the social media team.
> Similarly, the presented guidelines make no allowance for values-based selection of target platforms. While it would be lovely to say that we're neutral, the platforms aren't. I reiterate my previous question: Would you (general you) be OK with PHP having an account on Truth Social? Or on the Daily Caller forums? Or 8chan?
I didn't add values language but I think the result may be ok with
you. There's now a "discretion" principle. Presence on any platform is
never an obligation and the team can say no to a platform it thinks is
a bad fit.
> 1. The social media team is completely self-regulating. That means it operates without accountability. At bare minimum there needs to be some way for the project as a whole to kick someone out, whether by RFC or some other mechanism. (Eg, if catturd2 tried to join, I certainly hope most of us would be opposed to that.)
New members get announced on internals and the roster PR stays open a
week so people can object. And the community can always remove someone
(or the whole team) by RFC vote.
> 2. The infrastructure team is completely undefined. Is the Infra team's membership defined and regulated and documented elsewhere at present? If so, it should be linked. If not, that's a prerequisite for this policy doc, because we are giving formal authority to a committee that doesn't technically exist. That's not cool. Infra having a tighter membership policy than Social Media makes total sense; it does not need to operate the same way. But its operation needs to be defined somehow.
It seems not defined anywhere explicitly, but there is
https://wiki.php.net/systems and
https://github.com/php/infrastructure. So policy now defines it by
reference, the existing folks on systems@php.net / php/infrastructure
repo, plus credential holders per account have to be listed publicly.
Properly formalizing infra governance is a way bigger job than this
RFC, I don't think it should block it.
-Roman