Summer of Code

php.internals

Adam Maccabee Trachtenberg

21 years ago
How did PHP end up getting shut out of the Google Summer of Code project? http://code.google.com/summerofcode.html They've got Perl and Python, and even some PHP projects, such as Gallery, Horde, and Mambo. Did they e-mail the PHP Group? Did we not jump on this quick enough? Or was there some reason why we chose to stay out? -adam
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Ilia A.

21 years ago
Adam, Perhaps the mentoring FAQ will give you a clue why, specifically the "What is the role of a mentoring organization?" portion. :-) http://code.google.com/mentfaq.html Ilia

Nuno Lopes

21 years ago
Personally, this could be a good opportunity for me to start learning the PHP and Zend APIs... Nuno ----- Original Message -----

Adam Maccabee Trachtenberg

21 years ago
On Fri, 3 Jun 2005, Ilia Alshanetsky wrote:
> Perhaps the mentoring FAQ will give you a clue why, specifically the > "What is the role of a mentoring organization?" portion. :-) > > http://code.google.com/mentfaq.html
In other words, we are all too busy to administer the program? That is a valid answer, but I would prefer to hear that explicitly. I certainly know we have a list of PHP, PEAR, and PECL projects that could use some free labor, and it's not like as if we need to accept every single person who applies. We could some vetting to make sure we have somewhat skilled people working on the tasks. -adam
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Rasmus Lerdorf

21 years ago
Adam Maccabee Trachtenberg wrote:
> How did PHP end up getting shut out of the Google Summer of Code > project? > > http://code.google.com/summerofcode.html > > They've got Perl and Python, and even some PHP projects, such as > Gallery, Horde, and Mambo. > > Did they e-mail the PHP Group? Did we not jump on this quick enough? > Or was there some reason why we chose to stay out?
We were never contacted. I did know about it through other channels, but I really hadn't paid enough attention to the details. I didn't realize they would close the eligible projects like that. I figured they would be accepting any valid-sounding proposals regardless of their origin. -Rasmus

Adam Maccabee Trachtenberg

21 years ago
On Fri, 3 Jun 2005, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
> We were never contacted. I did know about it through other channels, > but I really hadn't paid enough attention to the details. I didn't > realize they would close the eligible projects like that. I figured > they would be accepting any valid-sounding proposals regardless of their > origin.
When I first went to the page, I saw a short list of selected groups, but I totally missed that they were opening it up to other organizations to apply. By the time I returned and realized, they had closed the window. (One day seems short. I bet they were flooded with requests.) You think they could extend the window for applications installed on > 20,00,000 domains or something similar. If they're hardline, I wonder if we could sneak in using our "sister" affiliation with the ASF, or is that something I don't want to go near with a 10' pole? :) -adam
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Andi Gutmans

21 years ago
Adam, We contacted the project manager of Summer of Code to understand why PHP wasn't in the list (nor contacted). We got a pretty lame answer saying that it's too late now and we should wait for next year. Go figure... Andi At 04:39 PM 6/3/2005 -0400, Adam Maccabee Trachtenberg wrote:

Wolfgang Drews

21 years ago
friends, maybe i am just too tired, but i saw sth. like 14th june as deadline. are we beyond?? best Wolfgang

David Zülke

21 years ago
Apparently, this doesn't mean that people cannot participate with projects that aim at improving PHP itself: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/summer-discuss/browse_thread/thread/cd15 18e013a647d0/0bc70c8cb3be094a That'd be sweet, eh? Any opinions on that one? Would such an implementation be incorporated into a future release? What would be the perquisites? IIRC, one reasons why namespaces were dropped back then was because there was no agreement on how import/"using" would work exactly, right? - David

Marcus Boerger

21 years ago
Hello David, we declined namespaces for a good reason, please search the mail archieve for them. However i also suggest you read the mail in the link below that suggests package support. Also you might contact: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=binarycloud-dev&m=105666989514486&w=2 Also you may want to contact "Timm Friebe <thekid@thekid.de>" who used to have a patch with some basic package implementations. best regards marcus Saturday, June 4, 2005, 3:39:29 PM, you wrote:
> Apparently, this doesn't mean that people cannot participate with projects > that aim at improving PHP itself:
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/summer-discuss/browse_thread/thread/cd15 > 18e013a647d0/0bc70c8cb3be094a
> That'd be sweet, eh? > Any opinions on that one? Would such an implementation be incorporated into > a future release? What would be the perquisites? IIRC, one reasons why > namespaces were dropped back then was because there was no agreement on how > import/"using" would work exactly, right?
> - David
>> -----Original Message----- >> From: Andi Gutmans [mailto:andi@zend.com] >> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 11:53 PM >> To: Adam Maccabee Trachtenberg; internals@lists.php.net >> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Summer of Code >> >> Adam, >> >> We contacted the project manager of Summer of Code to understand why PHP >> wasn't in the list (nor contacted). We got a pretty lame answer saying >> that >> it's too late now and we should wait for next year. >> Go figure... >> >> Andi >> >> At 04:39 PM 6/3/2005 -0400, Adam Maccabee Trachtenberg wrote: >> >How did PHP end up getting shut out of the Google Summer of Code >> >project? >> > >> >http://code.google.com/summerofcode.html >> > >> >They've got Perl and Python, and even some PHP projects, such as >> >Gallery, Horde, and Mambo. >> > >> >Did they e-mail the PHP Group? Did we not jump on this quick enough? >> >Or was there some reason why we chose to stay out? >> > >> >-adam >> > >> >-- >> >adam@trachtenberg.com | http://www.trachtenberg.com >> >author of o'reilly's "upgrading to php 5" and "php cookbook" >> >avoid the holiday rush, buy your copies today! >> > >> >-- >> >PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List >> >To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >> >> -- >> PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List >> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >>
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Ron Korving

21 years ago
Quote from http://code.google.com We're Expanding the Summer of Code... - 17/Jun/2005 After spot reviewing the applications we've received for the Summer of Code, we were struck with their high quality. As a result, we were able to increase the funds available to support 400 students, double our original number of 200. While this doesn't allow us to take all applicants, we thought that this would be a terrific thing to do for the mentoring organizations, the students, open source software and computer science. Who knows, maybe they'll take on new mentoring organizations. Ron "Adam Maccabee Trachtenberg" <adam@trachtenberg.com> wrote in message news:Pine.LNX.4.58.0506031636280.28217@miranda.org...

Andi Gutmans

21 years ago
They aren't planning on adding new mentoring organizations. I already checked with them... Andi At 09:56 AM 6/18/2005 +0200, Ron Korving wrote: