Nobody cares about the aggregation bug?

>Hi, > >It seems that nobody cares about the aggregation bug. I know someone can >avoid using aggregation by proxy calls or even method duplication like >what I'm doing now. But what I'm warrying about is that what if it is a >zend hash bug. It might affect some other places at expected moments and >thus costing a lot of time of many people.

>At 18:26 22.05.2003, Wei He wrote: >>Hi, >> >>It seems that nobody cares about the aggregation bug. I know someone can >>avoid using aggregation by proxy calls or even method duplication like >>what I'm doing now. But what I'm warrying about is that what if it is a >>zend hash bug. It might affect some other places at expected moments and >>thus costing a lot of time of many people. > > >aggregation is still to be considered, whether it makes it into ze2 or be >dropped >or fixed or replaced by other oo goodies. (So far there was no final >decision from >zend).

>At 08:31 PM 5/22/2003 +0200, Marcus Börger wrote: >>At 18:26 22.05.2003, Wei He wrote: >>>Hi, >>> >>>It seems that nobody cares about the aggregation bug. I know someone can >>>avoid using aggregation by proxy calls or even method duplication like >>>what I'm doing now. But what I'm warrying about is that what if it is a >>>zend hash bug. It might affect some other places at expected moments and >>>thus costing a lot of time of many people. >> >> >>aggregation is still to be considered, whether it makes it into ze2 or be >>dropped >>or fixed or replaced by other oo goodies. (So far there was no final >>decision from >>zend). > >I remember agreeing that interfaces is going to be the aggregation >alternative at the language level. >If people want to build on top of this outside of Zend, although I'm not >sure it's a good idea, this can be done.

>At 21:00 22.05.2003, Andi Gutmans wrote: >>At 08:31 PM 5/22/2003 +0200, Marcus Börger wrote: >>>At 18:26 22.05.2003, Wei He wrote: >>>>Hi, >>>> >>>>It seems that nobody cares about the aggregation bug. I know someone can >>>>avoid using aggregation by proxy calls or even method duplication like >>>>what I'm doing now. But what I'm warrying about is that what if it is a >>>>zend hash bug. It might affect some other places at expected moments and >>>>thus costing a lot of time of many people. >>> >>> >>>aggregation is still to be considered, whether it makes it into ze2 or >>>be dropped >>>or fixed or replaced by other oo goodies. (So far there was no final >>>decision from >>>zend). >> >>I remember agreeing that interfaces is going to be the aggregation >>alternative at the language level. >>If people want to build on top of this outside of Zend, although I'm not >>sure it's a good idea, this can be done. > > >Really? I can only remember that aggregation should be moved to the engine. >And aggregation is far away from interfaces. However there is still a >debate on >delegates open. They are close to aggregation when done at runtime. But i >would like them as in delphi and there they are done at compile time. So >actually i think we could have all three, can't we?

>>I remember agreeing that interfaces is going to be the aggregation >>alternative at the language level. > >Really?

>At 09:10 PM 5/22/2003 +0200, Marcus Börger wrote: >>At 21:00 22.05.2003, Andi Gutmans wrote: >>>At 08:31 PM 5/22/2003 +0200, Marcus Börger wrote: >>>>At 18:26 22.05.2003, Wei He wrote: >>>>>Hi, >>>>> >>>>>It seems that nobody cares about the aggregation bug. I know someone can >>>>>avoid using aggregation by proxy calls or even method duplication like >>>>>what I'm doing now. But what I'm warrying about is that what if it is a >>>>>zend hash bug. It might affect some other places at expected moments and >>>>>thus costing a lot of time of many people. >>>> >>>> >>>>aggregation is still to be considered, whether it makes it into ze2 or >>>>be dropped >>>>or fixed or replaced by other oo goodies. (So far there was no final >>>>decision from >>>>zend). >>> >>>I remember agreeing that interfaces is going to be the aggregation >>>alternative at the language level. >>>If people want to build on top of this outside of Zend, although I'm not >>>sure it's a good idea, this can be done. >> >> >>Really? I can only remember that aggregation should be moved to the engine. >>And aggregation is far away from interfaces. However there is still a >>debate on >>delegates open. They are close to aggregation when done at runtime. But i >>would like them as in delphi and there they are done at compile time. So >>actually i think we could have all three, can't we? > >I'm not quite sure what the difference between aggregation and delegation >is. I usually think of delegation as aggregation with auto-proxy (although >I guess it can also delegate to a non-aggregated object). >I think this can all be implemented in user-land by using interfaces like >in Java. I don't really want to bloat the engine anymore in this area >unless it is something crucial.