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Ilia A.

20 years ago
I'd like to thank everyone for voting on the topic and making their opinions known. The conclusion is that: E_STRICT will not be a part of E_ALL, however E_RECOVERABLE_ERROR will be, this means no "new" errors will appear for current user, as E_RECOVERABLE_ERROR is similar to what E_ERROR was in earlier releases. So the only affect is that value numeric value of E_ALL is greater then it was before. Marcus has already applied patch to this affect a few days ago (Thanks!). On the topic of "dynamic statics" the conclusion is that we do not want this in PHP 5.2 and people who need equivalent functionally can use class static vars that are arrays. Ilia Alshanetsky Advanced Internet Designs Inc. ilia@prohost.org

Brian Moon

20 years ago
Ilia Alshanetsky wrote:
> So the only affect is that value numeric value of E_ALL is greater then > it was before. Marcus has already applied patch to this affect a few > days ago (Thanks!).
This needs to be made obvious in the release notes or something. Users that set their error level in apache will use a numeric value and not the constants. That is the only way to change the value for an entire virthost.
-- Brian Moon ------------- http://dealnews.com/ Its good to be cheap =)

Ilia A.

20 years ago
I'll add a note about it to the 5.2 README file. On 19-May-06, at 11:00 AM, Brian Moon wrote:
> Ilia Alshanetsky wrote: >> So the only affect is that value numeric value of E_ALL is greater >> then it was before. Marcus has already applied patch to this >> affect a few days ago (Thanks!). > > This needs to be made obvious in the release notes or something. > Users that set their error level in apache will use a numeric value > and not the constants. That is the only way to change the value > for an entire virthost. > > -- > > Brian Moon > ------------- > http://dealnews.com/ > Its good to be cheap =) > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > >
Ilia Alshanetsky Advanced Internet Designs Inc. ilia@prohost.org

Steph

20 years ago
Back to my original (off-list) question - what happens if people don't have E_RECOVERABLE_ERROR level error reporting switched on? Does it fall back to E_ERROR or does the code fail silently?

Ilia A.

20 years ago
When E_RECOVERABLE_ERROR is triggers and not handled, it gets translated to an E_ERROR "Catchable fatal error...". On 19-May-06, at 12:10 PM, Steph Fox wrote:
> Back to my original (off-list) question - what happens if people > don't have E_RECOVERABLE_ERROR level error reporting switched on? > Does it fall back to E_ERROR or does the code fail silently? > >> I'll add a note about it to the 5.2 README file. >> >> >> On 19-May-06, at 11:00 AM, Brian Moon wrote: >> >>> Ilia Alshanetsky wrote: >>>> So the only affect is that value numeric value of E_ALL is >>>> greater then it was before. Marcus has already applied patch to >>>> this affect a few days ago (Thanks!). >>> >>> This needs to be made obvious in the release notes or >>> something. Users that set their error level in apache will use >>> a numeric value and not the constants. That is the only way to >>> change the value for an entire virthost. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Brian Moon >>> ------------- >>> http://dealnews.com/ >>> Its good to be cheap =) >>> >>> -- >>> PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List >>> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > >
Ilia Alshanetsky Advanced Internet Designs Inc. ilia@prohost.org

Steph

20 years ago
Cool. I just had a horrible vision of hundreds of reports of 'strange crashes' :)

Markus Fischer

20 years ago
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Is there an "UPGRADING 5.1 to 5.2"? I think there it would make sense, too. - - Markus Ilia Alshanetsky wrote:
> I'll add a note about it to the 5.2 README file. > > > On 19-May-06, at 11:00 AM, Brian Moon wrote: > >> Ilia Alshanetsky wrote: >>> So the only affect is that value numeric value of E_ALL is greater >>> then it was before. Marcus has already applied patch to this affect a >>> few days ago (Thanks!). >> >> This needs to be made obvious in the release notes or something. >> Users that set their error level in apache will use a numeric value >> and not the constants. That is the only way to change the value for >> an entire virthost. >> >> -- >> Brian Moon >> ------------- >> http://dealnews.com/ >> Its good to be cheap =) >> >> --PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List >> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >> >> > > Ilia Alshanetsky > Advanced Internet Designs Inc. > ilia@prohost.org > > --PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > >
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Marcus Börger

20 years ago
Hello Markus, the question alone makes me question if it was worth the effort starting it :-) best regards marcus Friday, May 19, 2006, 11:23:32 PM, you wrote:
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> Is there an "UPGRADING 5.1 to 5.2"? I think there it would make sense, too.
> - - Markus
> Ilia Alshanetsky wrote: >> I'll add a note about it to the 5.2 README file. >> >> >> On 19-May-06, at 11:00 AM, Brian Moon wrote: >> >>> Ilia Alshanetsky wrote: >>>> So the only affect is that value numeric value of E_ALL is greater >>>> then it was before. Marcus has already applied patch to this affect a >>>> few days ago (Thanks!). >>> >>> This needs to be made obvious in the release notes or something. >>> Users that set their error level in apache will use a numeric value >>> and not the constants. That is the only way to change the value for >>> an entire virthost. >>> >>> -- >>> Brian Moon >>> ------------- >>> http://dealnews.com/ >>> Its good to be cheap =) >>> >>> --PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List >>> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >>> >>> >> >> Ilia Alshanetsky >> Advanced Internet Designs Inc. >> ilia@prohost.org >> >> --PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List >> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >> >>
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Best regards, Marcus