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Ilia A.

20 years ago
Now that everyone had their say (I hope) I've made a quick tally of the votes so far: Rename date & timezone classes to DateTime and DateTimeZone respectively Tony Derick Mike Rasmus Andi Ilia Don't do anything and wait till 5.3/6.0 etc.. Pierre Steph So it's 6 to 2 so far. I have not seen a clear vote from Marcus, Edin, John, Jani and Andrei who had actively participated in the discussion. Ilia Alshanetsky

Edin Kadribasic

20 years ago
I'm OK with DateTime and DateTimeZone too. Edin Ilia Alshanetsky wrote:

John Coggeshall

20 years ago
On Wed, 2006-07-19 at 16:23 +0100, Edin Kadribasic wrote:
> > Rename date & timezone classes to DateTime and DateTimeZone respectively > > Tony > > Derick > > Mike > > Rasmus > > Andi > > Ilia > >
+ > > John +1 John

Marcus Börger

20 years ago
Hello Edin, Wednesday, July 19, 2006, 5:23:00 PM, you wrote:
> I'm OK with DateTime and DateTimeZone too.
> Edin
> Ilia Alshanetsky wrote: >> Now that everyone had their say (I hope) I've made a quick tally of >> the votes so far: >> >> Rename date & timezone classes to DateTime and DateTimeZone respectively >> Tony >> Derick >> Mike >> Rasmus >> Andi >> Ilia >> >> Don't do anything and wait till 5.3/6.0 etc.. >> Pierre >> Steph >> >> So it's 6 to 2 so far. >> >> I have not seen a clear vote from Marcus, Edin, John, Jani and Andrei >> who had actively participated in the discussion.
i am not going to look up a link for where i said my opinion. But trust i immediatley replied to andi as he was the first to offer a real name solution and added me as +1. Apart from that i said 'DateTimeZone' from the beginning (or was that on some channel...) well count me as +1 Best regards, Marcus

Steph

20 years ago
>> Ilia Alshanetsky wrote: >>> Now that everyone had their say (I hope) I've made a quick tally of >>> the votes so far: >>> >>> Rename date & timezone classes to DateTime and DateTimeZone respectively >>> Tony >>> Derick >>> Mike >>> Rasmus >>> Andi >>> Ilia >>> >>> Don't do anything and wait till 5.3/6.0 etc.. >>> Pierre >>> Steph >>> >>> So it's 6 to 2 so far. >>> >>> I have not seen a clear vote from Marcus, Edin, John, Jani and Andrei >>> who had actively participated in the discussion. > > i am not going to look up a link for where i said my opinion. But trust > i immediatley replied to andi as he was the first to offer a real name > solution and added me as +1. Apart from that i said 'DateTimeZone' from > the beginning (or was that on some channel...) well count me as +1
I'm moving over to indicate my acceptance of the 'red-headed stepchild' just so's we get close to total agreement amongst the warriors :) +1 - Steph

Andi Gutmans

20 years ago
Peer pressure? :) Steph doesn't want to be left out :) Just kidding... Andi

Ron Korving

20 years ago
I don't wanna be a nitpicker here, but I've seen DateTimeZone and DateTimezone both used in the discussion. I'm not sure which would be the popular one. - Ron PS: shake hands and make up.. group hug everyone? :) "Ilia Alshanetsky" <ilia@prohost.org> schreef in bericht news:53CE8C91-B388-4DC8-81B1-15B7F17C3162@prohost.org...

Ilia A.

20 years ago
Class names are not case sensitive, so it does not matter if it is FooBar or fooBar or even FoObAR. On 19-Jul-06, at 11:31 AM, Ron Korving wrote:
> I don't wanna be a nitpicker here, but I've seen DateTimeZone and > DateTimezone both used in the discussion. I'm not sure which would > be the > popular one. > > - Ron > > PS: shake hands and make up.. group hug everyone? :) > > > "Ilia Alshanetsky" <ilia@prohost.org> schreef in bericht > news:53CE8C91-B388-4DC8-81B1-15B7F17C3162@prohost.org... >> Now that everyone had their say (I hope) I've made a quick tally of >> the votes so far: >> >> Rename date & timezone classes to DateTime and DateTimeZone >> respectively >> Tony >> Derick >> Mike >> Rasmus >> Andi >> Ilia >> >> Don't do anything and wait till 5.3/6.0 etc.. >> Pierre >> Steph >> >> So it's 6 to 2 so far. >> >> I have not seen a clear vote from Marcus, Edin, John, Jani and Andrei >> who had actively participated in the discussion. >> >> Ilia Alshanetsky >> >> >> >> >> > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > >
Ilia Alshanetsky

Lukas Smith

20 years ago
Ilia Alshanetsky wrote:
> Class names are not case sensitive, so it does not matter if it is > FooBar or fooBar or even FoObAR.
Ilia, since PHP5 we are case preserving. So it does matter, though only stylistically, not technically. regards, Lukas

Derick Rethans

20 years ago
On Wed, 19 Jul 2006, Lukas Smith wrote:
> Ilia Alshanetsky wrote: > > Class names are not case sensitive, so it does not matter if it is FooBar or > > fooBar or even FoObAR. > > Ilia, since PHP5 we are case preserving. So it does matter, though only > stylistically, not technically.
DateTimeZone as "timezone" is not a word. (It's two words: "time zone") Derick

Jani Taskinen

20 years ago
On Wed, 19 Jul 2006, Ilia Alshanetsky wrote:
> Now that everyone had their say (I hope) I've made a quick tally of the votes > so far: > > Rename date & timezone classes to DateTime and DateTimeZone respectively > Tony > Derick > Mike > Rasmus > Andi > Ilia
Jani

Sean Coates

20 years ago
> Now that everyone had their say (I hope) I've made a quick tally of the > votes so far: > > Rename date & timezone classes to DateTime and DateTimeZone respectively
FWIW, add me to this. S

Andrei Zmievski

20 years ago
Rename it to DateTime and DateTimeZone. On Jul 19, 2006, at 8:15 AM, Ilia Alshanetsky wrote:

Steph

20 years ago
I don't recall saying 'don't do anything' at any stage... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ilia Alshanetsky" <ilia@prohost.org> To: "PHP Internals" <internals@lists.php.net> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 5:15 PM Subject: [PHP-DEV] Date flamewar summary

Ilia A.

20 years ago
am I quote ------------ I already agreed with Pierre over this, and offered to support him in giving PEAR support for upgrading. So long as it goes in from the start of 5_3 branch, why not? (Like it should've done at the start of 5_2 already.) I think it's worth holding out for a few more months to get sane names in there - and the original names are the sanest, least confusing names. - Steph ------------ On 19-Jul-06, at 1:00 PM, Steph Fox wrote:
> I don't recall saying 'don't do anything' at any stage...
Ilia Alshanetsky

Steph

20 years ago
:) 'do nothing' just sounds like 'let's ignore this whole thing', and that's _really_ not what I meant there! But nm. It looks like DateTime/DateTimeZone has the majority vote by a long chalk anyway, so be it. - Steph

Sara Golemon

20 years ago
> Now that everyone had their say (I hope) I've made a quick tally of > the votes so far: >
My $0.02USD; Most Ideal: Grant the 'Date' namespace to Internals (Not going to happen for the volume of reasons already discussed.) DO NOT REPLY WITH ALL THE REASONS I AM WRONG FOR HAVING THIS OPINION. I ACCEPT THAT IT WON'T HAPPEN. SO DON'T.......NONONONO NO BUTS, I SAID DON'T. Least Ideal: Leave it out entirely until 5.3. This was the argument during the 5.1 RC stage. There's no excuse to be having this argument still. Compromise: Give it the red-headed-stepchild names of DateTime and DateTimeZone. -Sara

Alan Knowles

20 years ago
+1 for adding the namespace patch in :) - oh well I can always dream... Regards Alan Ilia Alshanetsky wrote:

Jason Sweat

20 years ago
On 7/19/06, Alan Knowles <alan@akbkhome.com> wrote:
> +1 for adding the namespace patch in :) - oh well I can always dream... > Regards > Alan
+1 dreamer ( and +1 annoying de-lurker voting because he thinks it is american idol ;) Regards, Jason http://blog.casey-sweat.us/

bertrand Gugger

20 years ago
Jason Sweat wrote:
> On 7/19/06, Alan Knowles <alan@akbkhome.com> wrote: > >> +1 for adding the namespace patch in :) - oh well I can always dream... >> Regards >> Alan > > > +1 dreamer ( and +1 annoying de-lurker voting because he thinks it is > american idol ;) > > Regards, > Jason
Why ? I got schoked when I saw those 150 mails there. Now I know it was just a Dream::Dreamer instance. Regards toggg