On 5/17/07, Andrei Zmievski <andrei@gravitonic.com> wrote:
> >> I would request that you do not try to work on the input decoding
> >> feature since you proved very unreliable in the past.
> >
> > I suggest you to change your way to ask things.
> >
> > You first requested me to give the hand, and that's what I did. And
> > suddenly, only because one lost the interest/time/motivation to do it,
> > I was again in charge without any kind of discussion or questions.That
> > surprises me, but I can live with that. But please, stop to tell me
> > that I'm not reliable, that's insulting and does not reflect the
> > facts.
>
> The facts are these: you signed up to work on the input decoding
> feature, knowing full well that it is a critical infrastructure
> piece.
We agree on one thing, It is a critical part. That's why I took so
much time to explain how it could work and why it is important to do
it this way.
You told me that you were working on php6 in the last two or three
years. Why did you not work on that earlier?
> You told me that you made some progress but also ran into
> problems. Over the course of a month or so, I asked multiple times
> about the status of this project, both on email and on IRC, and did
> not receive a reply from you most of the time.
Nice, there is progress. It was "never", now it is "most of the
times". Will it be "always" tomorrow?
> If you lost interest/
> time/motivation to do this, you should have said this outright
> instead of stringing us along for weeks
If you played ping-pong with the possible volunteers while trying to
get it sooner than later, you are the only one to blame, face the
truth.
> while you made miscellaneous
> patches to GD and zip extensions.
And for many other projects, what I do or not during my work day or in
my free time is not your problem. What does that have to do with this
issue? Nothing.
However, to clarify this question, most if not all patches I applied
to the PHP tree in the last months are security fixes or critical bug
fixes.You have to understand that such tasks have a higher priority
than PHP 6.
That being said, you are not in the position to tell me what I have to
do in my free time, in PHP or not, understand that.
> At the end, all I was asking for
> was the code you had written so far, and even that you were not
> willing to share. So yes, I do consider you flaky and unreliable, and
> that is my (and some of the others' by the way) personal opinion, but
> don't tell me that this does not reflect the facts.
I tell you that it does not reflect the fact and your lack of
objectivity is not funny anymore.Your (selective) memory has holes and
I can't accept such terms to describe what I do for PHP.
But you completely "forgot" to mention that I gave the hand to Sara.
After a couple of weeks and yet another discussions on IRC, I realized
that I was again in charge. Do you really think that you can treat me
like the last wheel of the car and then come back to beg me? You must
be kidding!
Now about what you (or any other) think about me, I cannot care less
but I do not accept personal attacks, I never did. It is simply
unacceptable and respectless.
I do my best for PHP and in my free time. And for what I hear, a lot
of people appreciate my work, many more than you and the 2-3 other
PHP jet setters having troubles with me for all possible reasons.
I provide fixes, new features and improvements in time and every time
it was asked and only in my free time. Consider to be slightly more
respectful and I may consider to work more for php6. But for now and
given the current mess, PHP6 is not my priority. You want something
from me? for a given date? Pay me or be patient.
But Is the PHP development list the right place to discuss our
personal feelings? I don't think so.
Short version:
this discussion is ridiculous. You want something done before a given
date? you have ways to get it, but you cannot push a developer (even
me) like that, especially not when it is a volunteer.
If you have something constructive to say, I will read it carefully
and try to help you. If not, feel free to continue this senseless
discussion, but I have better things to do than reading such
stupidities.
--Pierre
